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Re:My Mac OS project 4 years, 8 months ago #3730

It started as MacAmp, then was renamed to Macast in '99. That and SoundJam MP were the two big ones for OS 7.6 and 8.x. I used MacAmp/Macast on my System 7.5.5 setup, too.

I'd say ClarisWorks would be another big one to have. Not sure which version corresponds to which OS, but most Mac folks had it right up until AppleWorks came along. My dad always had FileMaker, too.

When was FreePPP? That was how I connected to the internet for a spell in the 90s. Speaking of internet, you've got to include Hotline on System 7.5 through to OS 9.x (and maybe even up to 10.2). I miss the heady days of Hotline.

Glider PRO and Escape Velocity on OS 9, maybe OS 8 too. Glider 3, StuntCopter, Dark Castle, The Fool's Errand (although I spent more time with At The Carnival) on System 6. Actually, a bunch of apps and games listed here would have been on a typical System 6 Macintosh.

Marathon on OS 8? I can't remember. I spent a lot of time with Super Maze Wars, Spectre, Spelunx, and Eric's Ultimate Solitaire in the System 7.1-7.5.5 days. I'm not sure which of the crapload of shareware games I played were common.

If I think about it for a while, I can probably figure out exactly what software I had on System 6 and System 7.5.5 (the two main ones I used growing up).
Last Edit: 4 years, 8 months ago by mossy_11.

Re:My Mac OS project 4 years, 8 months ago #3733

Don't forget Power Pete!!

It would be incredible if someone could figure out how to get CVGS working too, but that seems unlikely (not impossible though)

Re:My Mac OS project 4 years, 8 months ago #3734

Marathon for sure. And I'll say Aperion for the sake of that's how I got my username.

Re:My Mac OS project 4 years, 8 months ago #3738

Heh... the project's getting more and more complicateder

I've been doing a matrix of emulators, ROM versions, hardware and OS versions... once I'm done that, I plan to stick the software on the systems that most closely match the copyright/publish date of the software.

Some neat things have happened... the latest builds of Mini vMac allow you to build-in the images and ROMs by default, and have 128k through Classic plus the Mac II emulation with dodgy color and no audio support There's drag-and-drop between the emulator desktop and host system with many goodies

There's also a drag-and-drop sheepshaver with updates that does a similar thing; the OS X build is really snappy now! I've got system 7.5.1 through 9.0.4 working flawlessly under this now, with ROMs appropriate to the OS era.

Basilisk II's a bit behind the ball; I'm finding that the Windows JIT inside Wineskin works the best, but I'm having option key binding problems and networking's a bit flaky. I'll get there though.

1984 - Mac System Software 0.0 - Mac 128K.app/ 1999 Mac OS 8.6 Veronica - PM 9500.app/
1984 - Mac System Software 0.1 - Mac 512K.app/ 1999-2000 Mac OS 9.0.4 Minuet - PM 9500.app/
1986 - Mac System Software 0.7 - Mac 512Ke.app/ 2001 Mac OS 9.2.2 LU1 - PM 9500.app/
1986 - Mac System Software 1.1 - Mac Plus r3.app/ 2001-2 Mac OS X 10.1.5 Puma.app/
1987 - System Software 2.0 - Mac SE.app/ 2002-3 Mac OS X 10.2.8 Jaguar.app/
1987 - System Software 2.0.1 - Mac II.app/ 2003-5 Mac OS X 10.3.9 Panther.app/
1987 - System Software 5.1 - Mac Plus r3.app/ 2005-7 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger (PPC).app/
1988 - System Software 6.0.3 - Mac SE FDHD.app/ 2006-7 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger (Intel)
1990 - System Software 6.0.7 - Mac Classic.app/ 2007-9 Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard
1990 - System Software 6.0.8 Terminator - Mac II.app/ 2009-11 Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
1990 - System Software 6.0.8L - Mac Classic.app/ 2011-2 Mac OS X 10.7.5 Lion
1991 Macintosh System 7.0.1* Blue - Mac IIci.app/ 2012- OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion
1991-4 Macintosh System 7.1.2 (Pro) I Tripoli - Mac IIci.app/
1994-6 Macintosh System 7.5.5 Mozart - Mac IIci.app/
1996 Macintosh System 7.5.5 Mozart - PM 5260 .app/
1997 Mac OS 7.6.1 Harmony - Mac IIci.app/
1997-8 Mac OS 8.1 Tempo (pimped) - Mac IIci.app/

There's my current set; I may end up using Fusion PC for some systems, as it appears to handle some 040 hardware better than BII.

Keep the software suggestions coming; I'd like to have the common "this is the impressive stuff my mac can do!" software loaded for each target, appropriate to the period

Re:My Mac OS project 4 years, 6 months ago #3769

Here's my latest update, I think this is mostly accurate now. I'm still re-sorting my old software archive by date so that I can start creating Application disks for each variant....

Emulators:
Mini vMac: 128k through Mac II (0.95-7.5.5) (color, but no sound in II)
Basilisk II: Classic or LC or 030/040 except IIx/IIcx SE/30 and Powerbooks (6.0.7-8.1)
SheepShaver: PPC with PCI except 6100/7100/8100, LC series, PB5300/1400/2400, Macs newer than the Beige G3 (blue&white and later) plus Mac OS ROM from 8.6-9.0.4 (used for blue&white and later G3s). Runs 7.5.2-9.0.4 (no 7.1.2-7.5.1)
PearPC: G4+Altivec OS X 10.1p to OS X 10.4.11p
VirtualBox: OS X 10.4.4i to current (with TonyMacx86 BIOS/kernel patches for 10.6.8+)

Others:
MESS: 128k/512k/512ke/Plus/SE/Classic/Pippin (more coming)
Fusion PC: 68040 and 68LC040 (512kb ROM for 7.1-7.6.1, 1MB ROM for up to 8.1)
SoftMac: 128k through Quadra 630 (0.95-8.1) (no sound or networking)
Executor: 7.0 and 6.0.7 compatability modes (colour) (no networking)
PCE: 128k/512k/512ke/Plus/SE/Classic (horrid mouse handling via wine) (0.95-7.5.5)


VMs:
1984 Mac System Software (0.95/1.0) - vMac 128k (1 SDF)
1984 Mac System Software 0.1 (1.1/1.1g) - vMac 512k
1985 Mac System Software 0.5 (2.0/4.1) - vMac 128k -- with Disk Write, Paint (2 SDF)
1986 Mac System Software 0.7 (3.0/5.1) - vMac 512ke
1986 System Software 1.1 (3.2/5.3) - vMac 512ke HD20

1987 System Software 2.0.1a (4.0/5.4) - vMac SE 4MB HD20
1987 System Software 2.0.1b (4.1/5.5) - vMac II 4MB 512x384 8-bit HD20
1987-8 System Software 5.1 (4.3/6.0) - vMac Plus 4MB HD20

1989 System Software 6.0.3 - vMac SE FDHD 4MB HD40
1990 System Software 6.0.5 - vMac II 20MB 640x480 8-bit HD40
1990 System Software 6.0.7 - vMac Classic 4MB HD40 (6.0.3 on coXO ROM) -- with WriteNow, Full Impact, RecordHolderPlus, SuperPaint 2.0
1991 System Software 6.0.8 - BII IIci 32MB 640x480 8-bit HD40
1992 System Software 6.0.8L - BII LC II 10MB 512x384 16-bit HD80

1991-2 System Software 7.0.1* - BII Quadra 700 68MB 832x624 24-bit HD80

1992-3 System Software 7.1.1 - BII Quadra 900 128MB 832x624 24-bit HD160
1994 System Software 7.1.2 Pro - BII Quadra 650 136MB 832x624 16-bit HD250

1994-6 System Software 7.5.5 - BII Quadra 660AV 68MB 832x624 16-bit HD230
1994-6 System Software 7.5.5 - SS PM 4400 160MB 832x624 16-bit HD1.2GB

1997 Mac OS 7.6.1 - BII Quadra 800 136MB 832x624 16-bit HD230
1997 Mac OS 7.6.1 - SS PM 7200 256MB 800x600 16-bit HD500

1997-8 Mac OS 8.1 - BII Quadra 950 128MB 832x624 24-bit HD230
1997-8 Mac OS 8.1 - SS PM 6400 136MB 800x600 16-bit HD2.4GB

1999 Mac OS 8.6 - SS PM 9500 256MB 1024x768 24-bit HD1GB

2000 Mac OS 9.0.4 - SS PM 8600 256MB 1024x768 24-bit HD2GB
2001 Mac OS 9.2.2~ - SS PM 9600 256MB 1024x768 24-bit HD4GB
== Use ResEdit to change system version to 9.2.2, and update Quicktime to 4.1.3 (if not already done)

2001-2 Mac OS X 10.1.5 - PearPC 128MB RAM HD1.5GB

2002-3 Mac OS X 10.2.8 - PearPC 256MB HD1.5GB

2003-5 Mac OS X 10.3.9 - PearPC 256MB HD3GB

2005-7: Mac OS X 10.4.11 PPC - PearPC 256MB HD4GB
2006-7: Mac OS X 10.4.11 x86 - VBox 256MB HD4GB

2007-9: Mac OS X 10.5.8 - VBox 512MB HD9GB (try in PearPC with LeopardAssist?)

2009-11: Mac OS X 10.6.11v1.1 - VBox 1GB HD5GB

2011-2: Mac OS X 10.7.5 - VBox 2GB HD7GB

2012-3: OS X 10.8.4 - VBox 2GB HD8GB

Re:My Mac OS project 3 years, 8 months ago #3946

Well, I'm finally making more progress. I've started cleaning up the content at apple.wikia.com/wiki/Macintosh_OS so that I can begin to build my videos and store them there. First one's available here: apple.wikia.com/wiki/System_1.0 and follows along with the text of the wiki page.

Feel free to add/improve text content, or add comments with requests for specific types of videos for each OS version. Also, if anyone has suggestions for how to keep youtube from munging my videos, I'd be happy to hear about it (youtube doesn't like the aspect ratio).

I may eventually do a sound track and voiceover for these things too. For now, you just have to read along as you watch.

Re:My Mac OS project 3 years, 7 months ago #3947

mossy_11 wrote:
It started as MacAmp, then was renamed to Macast in '99. That and SoundJam MP were the two big ones for OS 7.6 and 8.x. I used MacAmp/Macast on my System 7.5.5 setup, too.


I'd argue that Audion was one of the big players in the mix. Panic did a really neat write-up about the history of Audion a while back available here. It's cool to see how they pulled off transparencies in OS 9 by constantly taking screenshots and blending them with the UI. Neat bit of history and I think Panic did an awesome write-up.

Quick ramble about how I listened to music before iTunes. MacAmp Lite! Before the days of the dock I loved having that little collapsable player down the bottom of the screen (as shown below)!! I used the top skin (metallic with greenie buttons). It worked quite well because I only use albums. The song selection menu popped up with all of my albums and I'd just scroll down until I found my album. I wasn't a fan of iTunes because it took up the whole screen and looked a bit like Winamp (FWIW we got a Mac Winamp? I forget the technicality, but there's a story behind it). But yeah... I only switched to iTunes because it was required in order to sync with my iPod.

Re:My Mac OS project 3 years, 7 months ago #3948

jetboy wrote:
Quick ramble about how I listened to music before iTunes. MacAmp Lite! Before the days of the dock I loved having that little collapsable player down the bottom of the screen (as shown below)!! I used the top skin (metallic with greenie buttons).

Oh wow, I forgot about MacAmp Lite. I used it as well, and had that same skin. It was a great player.

jetboy wrote:
(FWIW we got a Mac Winamp? I forget the technicality, but there's a story behind it)

Yes, they did release Winamp for Classic MacOS. Versions 0.72 and 0.8.1.13. Both were beta releases. I tried it out, but not for long as it had a tendency to crash on my machine.

Re:My Mac OS project 3 years, 7 months ago #3949

Yeah, MacAmp was cool for basic playback. It only lacked plugin support. I'm so dependent upon WinAmp's plugin support for my VGM fixes now...I'd go insane if I couldn't use it anymore. Yay CrossOver!

Re:My Mac OS project 3 years, 3 months ago #3975

menace690 wrote:
Any chance you could send instructions. In the mood to get my Diablo 2 fix, but Lion no longer supports Rosetta...


Twas a sad day when Rosetta was discontinued...

Re:My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4021

I have to admit... I used SoundApp for pretty much everything back in the day; the other options didn't support my massive Mod/XM/S3M file archive

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4022

Not sure if this belongs here or its own post but this is a very interesting read. Its a project that emulates MPW to allow you to create carbon apps that work all the way back to system 1.
blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/post/10904...ic-mac-os-apps-in-os

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4024

RE: blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/post/10904...ic-mac-os-apps-in-os
Wow... I'm cross-posting this to E-Maculation forums I've been looking for something like this for ages!

This also means that any old Mac developers who still have their source code could theoretically cross-compile for OS X now! (Escape Velocity, Mr. Burch?)

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4028

EV games were some of the best space games I've ever played. Would love a new one or something similar.

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4030

Another wow for compiling back to System 1. That was a very good read. Thanks!

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4031

Yeah, amazing project.

And re: new EV, I'll ask when I get around to tracking down Matt Burch for an interview. But in the meantime, I know of three EV-inspired, EV-like games: Space RPG (good but not as deep), 3030 Deathwar (haven't tried it), and Naev (open source, haven't checked in on it in a while).

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4032

You can add the Galaxy on Fire series to the list. The original Galaxy on Fire and Galaxy on Fire 2 are now free (add-on missions will cost you) -- and they've recently released an MMO for free (no idea if it's any good).
Last Edit: 2 years, 11 months ago by _Em.

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4033

I've finally started building the images...
www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8562 -- I was having difficulty logging in here, so started the topic over there. First up: software from 1984 that defined the year. Anyone have anything to contribute?

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4034

I'd add Enchanted Scepters and Airborne to the list.

Airborne was a big deal because of the digitised sound and because it influenced a lot of early Mac games in one way or another (including some of World Builder/Enchanted Scepters author Bill Appleton's work. Appleton also reached out to Silicon Beach Software for a publishing deal after playing Airborne).

Enchanted Scepters should be on there because it was the first World Builder game and one of the first ever point-and-click adventures, and it had a much greater lasting impact than fellow 1984 Mac-exclusive adventure Legacy.

Re: My Mac OS project 2 years, 11 months ago #4035

My copy of the manual indicates Enchanted Sceptres was released in 1985, which is when I thought Appleton released World Builder... I've added Airborne though, and saved ES for the upcoming 1985 list

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